"While attacking" - Guild Wars Forums

Muk Utep · Dec 15, 2006, 10:40 PM // 22:40

For mods with the condition "while attacking", is this whenever you're in attack mode, or only while your character is actually swinging their weapon?

HawkofStorms · Dec 15, 2006, 10:46 PM // 22:46

It means while Swinging their weapon/shooting their bow/wanding, etc

Not sure what you mean by "attack mode" though (but I'm definately right about this whatever you meant).

Xenex Xclame · Dec 15, 2006, 10:46 PM // 22:46

The attack mode that you are talking about is actually Combat mode.
If your the one getting attacked your in Combat mode however you are not attacking.So i would say it is when you are actually attacking.

KANE OG · Dec 16, 2006, 01:17 AM // 01:17

What I think the OP means is, if you click on a target and are running toward it to attack, does that count as attacking? I think that's a pretty good question... sorry I don't know the answer.

icedragon981 · Dec 16, 2006, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by KANE OG

What I think the OP means is, if you click on a target and are running toward it to attack, does that count as attacking? I think that's a pretty good question... sorry I don't know the answer.

I'm pretty sure that it doesn't, I think you have to be within your weapon's range and actually swinging/firing/wanding for it to be considered "while attacking."

Faer · Dec 16, 2006, 01:24 AM // 01:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by KANE OG

if you click on a target and are running toward it to attack, does that count as attacking?

It used to, some months ago, but it was changed in an update. You can test it yourself for kicks and giggles by running at a Charr Shaman to attack it (but not actually attacking it yet) as they use Bane Signet on you.

Muk Utep · Dec 16, 2006, 01:26 AM // 01:26

I meant attack mode as in whenever you've clicked on an enemy to begin attacking them, versus only while you're graphically swinging your weapon.

So the faster you attack, the more you get out of "while attacking" mods? I.E an assassin who's constantly stabbing will benefit more than a dervish who stands around for 3 seconds between each attack.

icedragon981 · Dec 16, 2006, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muk Utep

I meant attack mode as in whenever you've clicked on an enemy to begin attacking them, versus only while you're graphically swinging your weapon.

So the faster you attack, the more you get out of "while attacking" mods? I.E an assassin who's constantly stabbing will benefit more than a dervish who stands around for 3 seconds between each attack.

Actually, no, if you are, like I said, within range and your character is in "attack mode" as you discribe it, he/she gets the bonus.

Gorebrex · Dec 16, 2006, 02:54 AM // 02:54

I could never figure it out myself, so I dont bother with that mod, it goes to the merchant.

rong626 · Dec 16, 2006, 08:28 AM // 08:28

i think casting spells that deals damage to foes should be considered as "attacking"

Sol_Vie · Dec 16, 2006, 08:55 AM // 08:55

But that isn't attacking. That's casting. There's a big and important difference there. It's being offensive, yes, but not attacking in the GW definition of the word.

RobotMULE · Dec 16, 2006, 11:17 PM // 23:17

This is something I've been wondering about too.. But I think everyone misunderstood the OP's question.

OK, for example, say a sword warrior is next to, and attacking a target.

A sword hits every 1.33 seconds.

Is that WHOLE 1.33 second time considered "attacking" (So that the warrior is continuously attacking), or is there some sort of cooldown on an attack.. Like maybe 1 second is considered attacking, and .33 seconds is like a cooldown.. kind of like after casting.. There is (I think .75 sec) an amount of time after you cast a spell, where you are no longer considered casting a spell, but cant do anything.

Any, I might try testing it a bit later, I guess this could be done by using signet of rejuvenation on a warrior, etc, who is continuously attacking.

Elena · Dec 16, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58

from my experience as a hammer was using counter blow thus far simply having youre character attack by clicking on or using space bar while in range to properly use there weapons is considered attacking

gjbrouhard · Dec 18, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

But Bane Signet should be armor-ignoring damage? Does that work for a test then?

LicensedLuny · Dec 18, 2006, 06:47 PM // 18:47

bane sig knocks down attacking foes

c_ras · Dec 18, 2006, 06:59 PM // 18:59

From my understanding, a certain condition must be met first before the "while.." goes into affect. It is like that in most computer languages. I'm not sure how hard it would be to make some sort of IF - THEN/ELSE/WHILE statement (in whatever language ANet is using) to trigger as the "animation" of the character goes into effect, but It may present a challenge. Graphically seeing your character swing a weapon or whatever is just a bunch of animated 3D polygons. It seems that everything is based on some type of algorithm, so I don't see this as being any different. On a easier note, it would be a lot easier to do the same thing that would trigger it as the character gets into "weapon" range and engages the enemy (by clicking or using a skill). That is just my observation.

Dec 15, 2006, 10:40 PM // 22:40	#1
Muk Utep Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2006	"While attacking" For mods with the condition "while attacking", is this whenever you're in attack mode, or only while your character is actually swinging their weapon?

Dec 18, 2006, 06:59 PM // 18:59	#16
c_ras Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Eternal Deliverance Profession: R/	From my understanding, a certain condition must be met first before the "while.." goes into affect. It is like that in most computer languages. I'm not sure how hard it would be to make some sort of IF - THEN/ELSE/WHILE statement (in whatever language ANet is using) to trigger as the "animation" of the character goes into effect, but It may present a challenge. Graphically seeing your character swing a weapon or whatever is just a bunch of animated 3D polygons. It seems that everything is based on some type of algorithm, so I don't see this as being any different. On a easier note, it would be a lot easier to do the same thing that would trigger it as the character gets into "weapon" range and engages the enemy (by clicking or using a skill). That is just my observation. Last edited by c_ras; Dec 18, 2006 at 07:01 PM // 19:01..

Dec 15, 2006, 10:46 PM // 22:46	#2
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	It means while Swinging their weapon/shooting their bow/wanding, etc Not sure what you mean by "attack mode" though (but I'm definately right about this whatever you meant).

Dec 15, 2006, 10:46 PM // 22:46	#3
Xenex Xclame Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: DPX Profession: R/	The attack mode that you are talking about is actually Combat mode. If your the one getting attacked your in Combat mode however you are not attacking.So i would say it is when you are actually attacking.

Dec 16, 2006, 01:17 AM // 01:17	#4
KANE OG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: Ogmios Graybeards Profession: W/	What I think the OP means is, if you click on a target and are running toward it to attack, does that count as attacking? I think that's a pretty good question... sorry I don't know the answer.

Dec 16, 2006, 01:26 AM // 01:26	#7
Muk Utep Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2006	I meant attack mode as in whenever you've clicked on an enemy to begin attacking them, versus only while you're graphically swinging your weapon. So the faster you attack, the more you get out of "while attacking" mods? I.E an assassin who's constantly stabbing will benefit more than a dervish who stands around for 3 seconds between each attack.

Dec 16, 2006, 02:54 AM // 02:54	#9
Gorebrex Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2006	I could never figure it out myself, so I dont bother with that mod, it goes to the merchant.

Dec 16, 2006, 08:28 AM // 08:28	#10
rong626 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hell Guild: Woot Profession: P/W	i think casting spells that deals damage to foes should be considered as "attacking"

Dec 16, 2006, 08:55 AM // 08:55	#11
Sol_Vie Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston, MA Guild: Blood Of Orr [BoO]	But that isn't attacking. That's casting. There's a big and important difference there. It's being offensive, yes, but not attacking in the GW definition of the word.

Dec 16, 2006, 11:17 PM // 23:17	#12
RobotMULE Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: Mo/W	This is something I've been wondering about too.. But I think everyone misunderstood the OP's question. OK, for example, say a sword warrior is next to, and attacking a target. A sword hits every 1.33 seconds. Is that WHOLE 1.33 second time considered "attacking" (So that the warrior is continuously attacking), or is there some sort of cooldown on an attack.. Like maybe 1 second is considered attacking, and .33 seconds is like a cooldown.. kind of like after casting.. There is (I think .75 sec) an amount of time after you cast a spell, where you are no longer considered casting a spell, but cant do anything. Any, I might try testing it a bit later, I guess this could be done by using signet of rejuvenation on a warrior, etc, who is continuously attacking.

Dec 16, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58	#13
Elena Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Belgium	from my experience as a hammer was using counter blow thus far simply having youre character attack by clicking on or using space bar while in range to properly use there weapons is considered attacking

Dec 18, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38	#14
gjbrouhard Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Rogues to Riches	But Bane Signet should be armor-ignoring damage? Does that work for a test then?

Dec 18, 2006, 06:47 PM // 18:47	#15
LicensedLuny Badly Influenced Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread) Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish	bane sig knocks down attacking foes